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  Watchtower Attorneys Hayden Covington and Charles Smith

  by Scott77 in

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  does anyone know some bios on those two guys?

  are they nice, bad or just ordinary guys in the higher ups of the watchtower hierachy?

  please, post some photos of them if available.. .

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  Watchtower Attorneys Hayden Covington and Charles Smith

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone know some bios on those two guys?

  are they nice, bad or just ordinary guys in the higher ups of the watchtower hierachy?

  please, post some photos of them if available.. .

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  Somewhere I read an interview done with Hayden Covington. It may have been on this site or one of the others from the past years. Now that I think of it it is on Randys site freeminds. Also do a google search there is much available.
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  Help for men and women stuck in

  by im stuck in in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been reading alot of posts here lately.

  one recurring theme seems to be problems with our mates that are still in.

  so i thought perhaps we could put our thoughts together in a organized manner.

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  I have been reading alot of posts here lately. One recurring theme seems to be problems with our mates that are still in. So I thought perhaps we could put our thoughts together in a organized manner. Most of us seem to be males with wives that will not see what we have seen about the borg. But I am sure that there are many women too men we are not alone in this. So maybe we can help each other

  Me first I guess. I have explained most things I have learned to my wife so she knows how I really feel but it goes right over her head die hard witness don't ya know. You see we love each other very much but I have ruined her dream of living together forever. So though she knows I think it is all bs she keeps her mouth shut. I have told her that I will wait it out and see if anything they say comes true. But I am playing the cards my way. We read and study together I slip in now and then some old literature last week it was the proclaimers book showing her something that was posted here last week didn't say too much but I saw the lights come on. I do not fight with her no matter what! I attend some meetings but really never join in tough for a former elder. I go on my terms not hers. I have a number of things that I do at the meetings to keep my mind busy so that I don't throw up. These include frequent trips to the bathroom im old ya know! Ha Ha, reading and I have mastered the art of turning my mind off and thinking about other things with out letting on too much. Daydreaming at night I guess you could call it. And durring those trips to the bathroom frequent use of my smart phone I even read this forum at the KH ( bad man). Some day I will get her out but I realize it will take time. These things usually keep me sane. So these are some of my tricks what say you ? Do you have anything that we all can use.
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  New Board members within the last 1 year.....

  by stuckinamovement in

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  2. friends

  i can't believe the amount of new posters this board is getting.

  it seems as if every day there are at least 2 to 3.. if you are a new poster, what made you decide to stop lurking and start posting?

  how many of us are there that have joined in the last year?.

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  I have hung around reading here for years and never saw the need to post. recently though I felt the need to become part of the board. I don't know how long I will continue to post but until then I will speak up when I feel I have something worth saying. By they way I like everyone here It you give me a chance to see that I was not crazy after all.
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  "To verdener" - "Worlds apart" thread

  by DagothUr in

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  i have just seen the movie.

  it's very accurate when describing the jw lifestyle and convictions, even their clothes and hairstyle.

  but a bearded elder with a rather long hair???

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  I agree with ms. I have known european elders that have beards. And the no tie thing and casual clothes, remember they were called in in a moments time which I have done myself. Sometimes there was no time to change clothes. Remember the father was an elder previously. Those were his friends and they say this as an emergency meeting. Seems very real to me.
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  A few questions for lurking active elders, former elders & MS

  by onemore in

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  2. friends

  here they go.... 1) let say that you were a sincere believer of the watchtower, and fallowed the gbs direction because you truly believed that they were guided by the holy spirit.

  what information or action would have made you doubt the validity & authority of the governing body?

  2) what type of information would have made you reconsider your position as an executioner of the gb rules & regulations?

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  1) Let say that you were a sincere believer of the Watchtower, and fallowed the GB’s direction because you truly believed that they were guided by the Holy Spirit. What information would have made you doubt the validity & authority of the Governing Body?

  Really nothing for many years I carried out their deeds when I finally woke up a few years ago I was shocked at what I had done.

  2) What type of information would have made you reconsider your position as an executioner of the GB rules & regulations?

  What made me reconsider is some things happening in the org.

  I then began to look around first at 607 and then more. At 607 I was convinced.

  3) As an active elder, was there anything that would have made you believed that the GB has been corrupted and perhaps infiltrated by Satan?

  Over the years I saw and heard things from cos dos and other prominent elders that made me think, but it took the research and the strength to do it to get me thinking then reading CofC.

  4) Let say you had some serious doubts and experiencing a “crisis of conscience”, if you knew that there would be no retaliation such as getting dissfellowshipped; would you have mastered the courage to speak up and search for the truth? I was always one to speak up but was afraid of doing too much.

  5) If you knew the implications of being an “independent agent”, would you have resigned or stopped fallowing all of the GB’s orders?

  I did!!!!
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  A few thoughts today...

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hmm.

  and maybe even live a heck of a lot better, to be quite honest, as i'm kinda poor right now.

  if not, then what the heck am i doing being a christian?

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  sd-7 you have a pm
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  Open apology from former elder

  by im stuck in in

  1. jw
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  i just finished watching worlds apart and was very moved by it.

  i served as an elder for many years.

  i wanted to convey to all how sorry i am for all of the jc's i participated in.

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  Many thanks to all of you for your kind words. I have no doubt that some had it coming especially the pedofiles, but there are so many others that haunt me. But I am moving on probably will never be completely out due to family, but at least my mind is clear of all of the mindless drivel about armageddon and the new system and how loving the GB is. I listen to those words now when I attend and want to scream not true do some research lemmings! I just keep hoping that I will get my family to see clearly, but deep down I know that at this age I will no doubt carry it to my grave. Don't get me wron there things now in life I enjoy and am not desperate and I am pretty happy but it still hurts alot knowing that I can not be as Pinoccio (sp) said a real boy HA HA
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  Open apology from former elder

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  1. jw
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  i just finished watching worlds apart and was very moved by it.

  i served as an elder for many years.

  i wanted to convey to all how sorry i am for all of the jc's i participated in.

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  I just finished watching Worlds Apart and was very moved by it. I served as an elder for many years. I wanted to convey to all how sorry I am for all of the jc's I participated in. There were many families torn apart I am sure. Though you do not know who I am and for my own reasons I can not tell you

  please accept my apology! I really beleived all that I did was right, having been raised a JW. Several years ago I stepped down but I now see that it was not soon enough. If I had only learned what I know now at an earlier age I would have been a different man and led a much different life. But at least now I can try to make amends for my mistakes. Thanks all for reading this as it does make me feel a little better. Peace and love to all of you.
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  An Open letter to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses (Elders/ Ex-Elders)

  by stuckinamovement in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you are an elder or an ex-elder please add a comment.

  i hope that the governing body will see this.

  it is too bad it has to be on an anonymous forum.

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  Excellent post couldn't have said it better myself. I served as an elder for over 35 years recently resigning. Holding many prominent positions. This horrible trap is beyond beleif. I like you have many close relatives that are so wrapped up in the organization that I am not sure I can ever leave completely, but they no longer have my mind only the body "sometimes"just to keep up a pretence. I have seen so many good people completely ruined in my time by the desires of men that think only of themselves. I wish all here the best and too hope that it falls apart like the house of cards that it is.